In the first episode of On the Couch with Iman Rappetti, Nedbank CIB's Mbali Kubheka, Makako Etsane and Leigh Buckley explore what Big Deal Energy really looks like at the negotiating table. Their conversation challenges the idea that confidence has to look a certain way, sharing how preparation, intuition and authenticity have become their greatest advantage.
 
The deeply personal episode encourages all women to recognise the value they bring, knowing that experience and self-belief are some of the strongest assets you can take into any deal.
 

Episode 1 | Let's talk BDE. Big Deal Energy

With Iman Rappetti, Mbali Kubheka, Makako Etsane, and Leigh Buckley 

 
In episode 2 of On the couch with Iman Rappetti, Lulu Molemong, Rivashni Naidoo and Margaux Tait reflect on the deals that truly challenged them. 
 
They share their experiences of navigating pressure, uncertainty, difficult conversations, and the moments when they realised they were capable of more than they had imagined. From a first-of-its-kind renewable energy project and a flagship mining transaction, to a groundbreaking deal that opened new possibilities in property – each story offers a different perspective on what it means to work when the stakes are at their highest.
 

Episode 2 | What does Big Deal Energy look like under pressure?

With Iman Rappetti, Lulu Molemong, Rivashni Naidoo and Margaux Tait

 
In episode 3 of On the couch with Iman Rappetti, Lulu Molemong, Rivashni Naidoo and Margaux Tait reflect on the deals that truly challenged them. 
 
They share their experiences of navigating pressure, uncertainty, difficult conversations, and the moments when they realised they were capable of more than they had imagined. From a first-of-its-kind renewable energy project and a flagship mining transaction, to a groundbreaking deal that opened new possibilities in property – each story offers a different perspective on what it means to work when the stakes are at their highest.
 

Episode 3 | Who’s your Big Deal Energy board of directors?

With Iman Rappetti, Kerusha Makan, Mandisa Majija, and Lesley Lombard

 
In episode 4 of On the couch, Iman Rappetti sits down with Nedbank Corporate and Investment Banking (CIB)’s Nandiswa Mxokozeli, Delene Chetty, and Michelle Krengel to get their perspective on negotiating with Big Deal Energy.
 
These influential women leaders discuss everything from dealing with difficult personalities and complex decision-making to the importance of leading with empathy.
 

Episode 4 | BDE. Negotiating under pressure.

With Iman Rappetti, Nandiswa Mxokozeli, Delene Chetty, and Michelle Krengel

 
In episode 5 of On the couch with Iman Rappetti,  Nedbank Corporate and Investment Banking (CIB)’s Rebecca Moukangwe, Kesari Moodley, and Izélle Laubscher share how they found their footing in rooms where they weren’t always made to feel welcome.
 
They discuss leading with credibility and confidence as they reflect on the experiences that taught them to trust their voices and value their own Big Deal Energy.
 

Episode 5 | BDE. Making space at the table.

With Iman Rappetti, Rebecca Moukangwe, Kesari Moodley, and Izélle Laubscher

Women's month 2026

Celebrating BDE