In the first episode of On the Couch with Iman Rappetti, Nedbank CIB's Mbali Kubheka, Makako Etsane and Leigh Buckley explore what Big Deal Energy really looks like at the negotiating table. Their conversation challenges the idea that confidence has to look a certain way, sharing how preparation, intuition and authenticity have become their greatest advantage.
 
The deeply personal episode encourages all women to recognise the value they bring, knowing that experience and self-belief are some of the strongest assets you can take into any deal.
 

Episode 1 | Let's talk BDE. Big Deal Energy

With Iman Rappetti, Mbali Kubheka, Makako Etsane, and Leigh Buckley 

 
In episode 2 of On the couch with Iman Rappetti, Lulu Molemong, Rivashni Naidoo and Margaux Tait reflect on the deals that truly challenged them. 

 

They share their experiences of navigating pressure, uncertainty, difficult conversations, and the moments when they realised they were capable of more than they had imagined. From a first-of-its-kind renewable energy project and a flagship mining transaction, to a groundbreaking deal that opened new possibilities in property – each story offers a different perspective on what it means to work when the stakes are at their highest.
 

Episode 2 | What does Big Deal Energy look like under pressure?

With Iman Rappetti, Lulu Molemong, Rivashni Naidoo and Margaux Tait

Women's month 2026

Celebrating BDE